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Hi HB members! I am a salon owner in Los Gatos, Ca. and just was wondering what the proper time for a haircut and blowdry should be for a senior level stylist. We have this debate in our salon all the time. What have you experienced in your salon and do you charge extra if the hair takes more time?
Thank everyone!
Laure

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Hi Laure,

I own a franchised salon in Sydney and we work to a rough rule of thumb target of $1 per minute for our services. We charge $25 for a cut and $25 for shoulder length blow wave. Therefore the expected time should be around 50-60mins.

Hope this helps.

Vic
45 mins is what i consider salon speed. if your taking longer in a salon your just stroking your ego and losing money. I dont charge more for "thicker or longer" hair because it all equals out, plus you get into this argument about how long is long how thick is thick and so on. I believe in one flat fee.
i also agree that 45 mins is salon speed but i truly believe in having assistants involved in the process. i dedicate that time to consulting and cutting and use assistants for shampoo and blowdrying ,developing a rythm where one guests service wraps with another . it also serves as a great learning experience for assistants who are the future of your salon,it is imperative that they are well trained and can deliver these services at salon quality levels
hey I like your philosophy, I was blessed to work with awesom master stylist, hell a couple even enjoyed how exzubrent i was for the mundane! just want to say hey keep that up , never know Who your training!
Thanks for all your opinions! I also agree it should be around 45 minutes, however I still have some stylists wanting to take an upwards of 90 minutes on some guests. I am having a hard time coaching them on increasing speed without decreasing results. Any suggestions on how to coach/instruct staff would be great.
My views are this: either 45min or 1hr for someone on the floor depending on their experience, however you need them to be on the 45 to start making money. Once the stylist is booked 2-3 weeks in advance you can drop them down to 30min with and assistant doing alot of the work. That is how our salon makes profit while not truly compromising the quality
Its time that we charged different prices for different haircuts. I can put in very much energy and the cut can go wrong. Some of my best haircuts have been 10 minutes cuts. Hairlines are the real difficulty. If someone has fine hair the haircut can take a lot less time to do than someone with very thick hair. Its a tricky question. If you do a haircut too quickly the client can feel that you have not spent the right time on it. 45 minutes booking was what we did in London but I think that 45 minutes is ok if you charge for that time. What about the consultation? If you go to a consultant you will have to pay. Its time that Hairdressers charged for consultations. Its your life in that moment. I propose that you have a price list and charge consultation fees and you can waiver them and say well its free for you. But they will then know that you have given them your time and experience and have not let them pay for the most important part of the service.
Bravo! Bravo! I have utilized an assistant program for quite some time, not only does it free up my time but it also not only educates the assistants but helps them build their clientele as well.

Gerard Scarpaci said:
i also agree that 45 mins is salon speed but i truly believe in having assistants involved in the process. i dedicate that time to consulting and cutting and use assistants for shampoo and blowdrying ,developing a rythm where one guests service wraps with another . it also serves as a great learning experience for assistants who are the future of your salon,it is imperative that they are well trained and can deliver these services at salon quality levels
For me a haircut should take as long as it takes to get it right. I am not a manager of a hairsalon. Maybe they would say something else. But if you get it right they will always come back and send others to you too. What you lose with one you will make up from another.
Hear, hear! And not just because you're John Santilli - but I fully agree. It's always been part of my philosophy though I may not have reached the heights you have. The consultation has also always been top priority for me and it too takes as long as it takes.

I recently met your colleague Peg via email at her salon in Texas, and I like the way she put it: "...the cut is totally custom (to these characteristics,) and is more like a work of art."

That's how I have always striven to work. When I work that way I'm proud, the recipient is proud and feels both valued and taken care of.

Thanks for setting the bar.
i completely agree with johnsantilli! some short hair can take a long time, some long hair can take less. connecting with the client is of extreme importance and hard to do in 15 minutes. people can get a good cut in a lot of places but it is personal connection that brings them repeatedly back to you.
also- your mechanic charges a flat rate per job and the auto shop figures that on a pre-concieved amount of time it will take. usually it takes less time (mechanic's get a bonus for this) but sometimes it takes more. in most cases the charge stays the same, unless they charge for some additional operation.
45 is absolutely do-able!!!!! But for new clients I book extra time to learn about their needs, their hair, go a good scalp massage and educate them on what I am doing to their hair as I style it. Product by product. In reality I would book an hour for everyone to talk with them a bit longer about products, especially makeup because for me (as passionate as I am about it) it is a quick missed sale in our salon.

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